yeah, they can hold onto them. they've changed implementation a million times. not fair to blame the cbo for the law they scored -- >> let me stop you there. doug, you're a smart person, i think everyone watching understanding the dynamic, they want good results but what they put in and put out has a lot of moving parts and assumptions. >> yes. >> what i want to drill down, both of these candidates like infrastructure, neither of these candidates want to go after entitlements which surely at one point will reach $1 trillion. we have to actually spend on pet projects, it's that thin, paper thin, i don't know where they're going to get this money but taxes are going to be a big deal. and it's rating how these taxes will ultimately effect gdp. that's where my beef is with them. and you seem to agree, they need a big boilerplate. we don't know if this could be true, we have no idea how much they'll get through, whether congress will vote on it, what they're going to do with taxes, but we've had many guests say, oh, my god, this report, sandy's report 1,000% facts, i disagree.